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Post by sirrmo on Jan 3, 2017 19:03:17 GMT
give your theories for why you think hawkmoth became a villain
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Post by sirrmo on Jan 3, 2017 19:13:23 GMT
Personally: and this is a thought out theory so it might come true, i think i already know why hawkmoth became a villain. *possible spoilers*
in the show many things are explained about the miraculous and the people that hold them, one such thing is that the ladybug earrings and cataclism ring are the two most powerfull and combined would grant the holder the power over all creation, now lets look at hawkmoth who, if the theories are correct would be adrians dad. he started being hawkmoth soon after his mother died, to find the miraculouses and use them to gain ultimate power, we find out in the christmas episode that adrians mom hasnt even been dead for a year, and in another episode we see adrien open a vault with a picture of his mom and the peacock miraculous, which is missing from the box the old turlte man has, this would mean that adriens mom and dad were the past super team like ladybug and chat noir are now, i think that hawkmoth is trying to get the miraculous to gain ultimate power so he can bring back his wife *adriens mom* this is just a theory but i am so certain about this. anyway what do you guys think? any holes in the theory? anything left out? or do you have your own theories on this? please tell me and ill reply as soon as i can
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thaliel
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Post by thaliel on Jan 4, 2017 14:52:59 GMT
Even though it might be true, Madame Agreste has not officially been declared dead. She "disappeared", whatever that means. My theory is as follows: She was indeed given the peacock miraculous. But as it had never been actively used before and Duusuu (the kwami) being unexperienced with this, something went terriblyx wrong when it was activated, resulting in the "disappearance". Now Duusuu is hifding inside the miraculous because she is angry at herself for what happened.
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Post by sirrmo on Jan 4, 2017 19:35:11 GMT
i think that might be a good explanation, however in the christmas episode it is made clear that it has been less than a year since she dissapeared, and in episode 26 (coupe de forde)the old man said he never expected the moth miraculous to appear ever again, claiming there has been some time between the dissapearance and the last activation of the miraculous, i think that they were allowed to keep the miraculous untill they died, and that the mother died earlier than the father could bare, driving him to become hawk moth
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thaliel
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Post by thaliel on Jan 5, 2017 12:41:07 GMT
The weird thing is that nobody seems to be looking for Madame Agreste. Usually, when someone goes missing, there would be investigation etc. And there is the picture of Gabriel and Adrien wearing all black, as if on mournng. So, my theory is that this was done to have the public (and police etc) believe she died, even though she actually didn't, just so that people would leave the case alone so Gabriel/Hawkmoth could go about his villain way undisturbed
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Post by writeramby on Mar 9, 2017 4:38:49 GMT
I would like to expand on that actually; I had noticed that too. For the picture up on the wall with Adrien and Gab, I thought it was weird--PERIOD-- to have a picture without his mom up where it's the first things anyone sees when they come in. If she is indeed missing, why have the picture made at all? Why have the reminder? Also, if Plagg had seen the peacock miraculous, shouldn't he have sensed Duusu? Or could that just be chalked up to Plagg being his lazy, unaware self?
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Post by koaikiandrade on Mar 14, 2017 2:58:50 GMT
Not sure if this has to do with anything but the old turtle guy said that he wouldnt make the mistake of giving the miraculous away to the wrong people,so that might mean
that Hawk moth did something wrong
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Post by koaikiandrade on Mar 14, 2017 3:04:38 GMT
another reason Adrians Dad might be hawk moth is because they share the same American voice actor.
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thaliel
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Post by thaliel on Mar 20, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
another reason Adrians Dad might be hawk moth is because they share the same American voice actor. not just american, it is the same in every language. And seeing that they cast new voicae actors even for characters who only appar once, it is surely not done for budget reasons
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Post by yomna on Jun 6, 2017 0:26:41 GMT
I think hawkmoth isn't evil he just want the miraculouses to bring mrs agreste back,he created supervillains to make chat noir and ladybug appear. Master fu said that he made a miatake once he was talking about the peacock miraculous he gave it to mrs agreste and maybe she wasn't ready or he chosed the wrong person and thats why she disappeared.
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